Wanderful the podcast is created and hosted by arts-in-business innovator David Pearl to help you bring a bit of wonder to your walking. Inspired by David’s not-profit social movement Street Wisdom that brings free guided in-person and online walking workshops to city streets in 80 countries and counting. Each episode takes an entertaining and light- hearted look at an aspect of life we all secretly struggle with or want to get better at: optimism, creativity, relationships, wealth, direction… you get the idea. We’ll start the walks by exploring the everyday challenge in the company of an entertaining and refreshingly, imperfectly human, guest. Then, following simple instructions provided by David, the walk becomes a way to get clarity, insight and learn new skills you can use every day to help you find answers to your life questions. All you need is some headphones and a phone so you can get outside and walk whilst listening, but if you are tuning in at home then walking (slowly) inside your house, also works well too. You can dig deeper into the power of wandering and getting off the beaten track in David’s book Wanderful: Human Navigation for a Complex World available at leading bookstores. Follow @streetwisdom_ @davidpearlhere for more ideas and inspiration on leading a Wanderful life https://wanderfulpodcast.com/
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Arne Gast, Senior Partner McKinsey & Co
“We have to re-write all the rules.”
The core of Arne’s work is creating organisations for the future and making change personal and systemic in high-stake transitions.
As the global lead of McKinsey’s “Powering Performance Transformations” offering, Arne helps to create positive change – through shifts in culture, stronger leadership, new capabilities and liberating structures. McKinsey’s team of more than 1,000 change experts include their own Aberkyn facilitators, communication mavericks, implementation experts, learning architects and organization specialists – trying to combine the best ideas and evidence- based methods for the leaders they serve.
Currently, Arne is working on a book called “Schokland” – exploring the role of leadership teams in this decisive decade. Previously, he was part of the teams writing the books Leadership at Scale, Beyond Performance, Reorg and (as a student at INSEAD) Blue Ocean Strategy.
Arne’s social impact passion is education. He co-founded Leerkracht Foundation with a committed team, and over the years helped more than 1000 Dutch schools with an inspiring cultural change approach to improve outcomes. He also worked with the Dutch-Moroccan Leadership Institute, Young Leaders Malaysia, schools for highly gifted children, and multiple universities including the founding of ISB in Hyderabad, India. His own educational background includes an MBA from INSEAD Fontainebleau, and a MSc Organization Economics from Erasmus University in Rotterdam –preceded by a year of Liberal Arts at Ole Miss, the University of Mississippi.
Arne splits his time between the Netherlands and Malaysia, with his wife, 4 children and a selection of dogs and cats. In his free time, he loves playing or coaching field hockey, gardening and growing apples, dabbling with black-white Leica photography, and visiting small book stores and reading many, many books.
00.00 - 00.44 Theme & Intro.
00.45 - 05:08 Introducing Arne Gast.
05.10 - 08.45 An inspiring teacher: the story of Mr Bone and the thirst for knowledge.
08:47 - 10.02 The areas of unknowing: the mischievous desire to help people touch the areas they are not familiar with.
10.05 - 11.30 How things work and re-writing the rules: re-inventing and finding a new world.
11.31 - 15.35 Arne’s appetite for the future comes from hope.
15.35 - 16.30 What we can learn from the Nordic countries.
17.00 - 19.39 Re-inventing how we talk to each other.
19.40 - 23:50 Rejoicing in the not knowing: thriving on reinvention.
23.51 - 26.43 Life was ‘easy’ for companies in the past - now we have to do things differently - considering C02 neutral / net positive / digital transformation /
you cannot source from China or Russia anymore / full diversity / climate cri sis - how do we do all of this?
26:48 - 30.40 The role of story and the methods we like to work with: What’s the new narrative?
31.00 - 31.30 What is to what if… rather than concentrate on what the current stories are and let’s imagine different futures.
31.31 - 33.15 The mind is like an art gallery - a lot of Rothko at the moment - can we put a Van Gough in there?
33.48 - 38.22 Telling stories and using experimentation as a way forward.
38.24 - 41:22 Arne’s metaphor - Schokland
41.25 - 44.00 The Wanderful Exercise: Seeing the world as an art gallery
44.15 - 48.45 Epilogue
48.47 - 49.54 Outro and Credits
“We have to re-write all the rules. It is not the end of history. It is only beginning. It is our time in the next decade that we are going to re-invent it. We are going to do regenerative agriculture together and find the new world.” (Arne)
’Men will not survive, they will prevail.’ (William Faulkner)
“I like starting things anew and when something gets too stable, I want to move on.” (Arne)
“The wisdom is in so many different fragments of people that if we can talk to each other and co-create with each other then we can find a new place.” (Arne)
“I like to spark some joy in the unknowing. It’s all an experiment we are doing. There are no answers anymore and even the questions are unclear right now.” (Arne)
“Be kind with people.” (Arne)
“Narrative is one of the most powerful tools we have. It’s a way to really inspire people.” (Arne)
“Amplification of the bad news is going up and it limits people from taking agency to say what do I want and what is the world I want to create.” (Arne)
“Imagine different futures - let’s use that.” (David)
“The story is the first step. I’ve seen it without really being there. Just by thinking we get the medicine.” (Arne)
“Dip a toe in the water as an experiment but just keep telling yourself… it’s just an experiment.” (Arne)
Arne Gast (Guest)
David Pearl (Host)
Andrew Paine (Producer & Audio Engineer)